The Island: Episode 3 - Discussion - Page 4

Dartagnan · #25 09-24-2008

Originally Posted by Bacchus

Coral had her place in the scheme of things.

I just don't think Rachel offers anything these days on competitive level (made fully clear tonight) or an entertainment level (nothing she said made me even crack a smile.)

She is better off in LA hawking tee-shirts.

I think she proves pletny competitively. Shown tonight by lasting 3 hours up there. Maybe KellyAnne is just better than her now. Entertainment level she hasn't had great drama, but good confessionals and some nice air time I guess, but thats understandable.

But do you like Coral though?

I find it funny though that Rachel was thought of as the biggest threat. I thought she would just go under the radar.

Paula and Johanna have definitely gone down a lot in my books. I liked both of them, but I have officially seen the light that both Paula and Johanna have turned to the dark side.

lionheart · #26 09-24-2008

Wow. First I lose Abram, and now I lose Rachel. This sucks for me. I'm getting so sick of Kenny and Johnny in the most disgusting way imaginable. Seriously, get off my TV. And Johanna is getting on my nerves too. I thought the face was kinda lame, but I loved that underdog KellyAnne won, even though I would've preferred Rachel winning. It kinda sucked that Rachel begged the alliances of douche bags to keep her in, it kinda felt like she lost all power she ever had in these games.

RockSteadyVybes · #27 09-24-2008

Originally Posted by Bacchus

I liked Rachel on her Road Rules season, but once she got to the challenges I was not her biggest fan. I have always rooted for the underdog and don't like the "mean girl" mentality.

Actually, I did a quick interview with her a few years ago and she was pleasant.

Veronica brings out the mean-Rachel haha

**V1man** · #28 09-24-2008

Originally Posted by Moonpaw

I'm with you on that one. I love how they edited the "Shut the F*ck up!" scene, and how they cut out the part were Ev gave away Kelly Ann's win.

We should be fair to Evelyn. She did not give away Kelly Anne's win. The editor did. The cast is not supposed to internally edit their comments in case the producers want to backtrack and use a clip in the dailies or the episode totally out of sequence. The important point would be that in the episode, the dinner preparation sequence takes place after the face-off we saw tonight. The is a production lesson that everyone should commit to memory.

Rather than showing the natural progression of things from that last face off where Johnny complained about the opposing "****hes" to determing the players in the face off, to the competition, to the dinner, there was a build up to the confrontation between Kelly Anne and Johnny. The editors decided they could make better TV by opening the episode with the "fight." If they had shown it in sequence, Evelyn's point about how Johnny came to win his key would not have been lost. What Ev clearly was saying was that Johnny, Derrick and Kenny knew when J and D volunteered that Abe was going to throw the face-off, so each would get a key. She is reminding them that their method was game-smart but cowardly.

**Bacchus** · #29 09-24-2008

Originally Posted by Dartagnan

I think she proves pletny competitively. Shown tonight by lasting 3 hours up there.

Back when when I was growing up, we called second place - first loser. Hell, it wasn't even that long ago.

These days everyone wants a frick'n pat on the back...

If you compete in one event and lose, you are not competitive. End of story.

lionheart · #30 09-24-2008

Originally Posted by Dartagnan

I think she proves pletny competitively. Shown tonight by lasting 3 hours up there. Maybe KellyAnne is just better than her now. Entertainment level she hasn't had great drama, but good confessionals and some nice air time I guess, but thats understandable.

But do you like Coral though?

I find it funny though that Rachel was thought of as the biggest threat. I thought she would just go under the radar.

Paula and Johanna have definitely gone down a lot in my books. I liked both of them, but I have officially seen the light that both Paula and Johanna have turned to the dark side.

I agree, while Rachel is pretty strong, I thought she was gonna fly under the radar cause she didn't have Veronica or Tina around. And yes, Paula and Johanna have degraded themselves immensely.

RockSteadyVybes · #31 09-25-2008

Johanna....yikes. Idk man...I know we have a certain few Johanna fans on here (lol) but man. I have a feeling she'll be one of the ones stuck on the island when the 8 leave.

As much as I didn't like Kelly Anne during Sydney...I always root for the newbies in the challenges. I was glad to see her victorious. (Though, i REFUSE to ever...EVER root for Ashli. I have to have some standards, right?)

This season is getting a liiiiittle better.

lionheart · #32 09-25-2008

Originally Posted by V1man

We should be fair to Evelyn. She did not give away Kelly Anne's win. The editor did. The cast is not supposed to internally edit their comments in case the producers want to backtrack and use a clip in the dailies or the episode totally out of sequence. The important point would be that in the episode, the dinner preparation sequence takes place after the face-off we saw tonight. The is a production lesson that everyone should commit to memory.

Rather than showing the natural progression of things from that last face off where Johnny complained about the opposing "****hes" to determing the players in the face off, to the competition, to the dinner, there was a build up to the confrontation between Kelly Anne and Johnny. The editors decided they could make better TV by opening the episode with the "fight." If they had shown it in sequence, Evelyn's point about how Johnny came to win his key would not have been lost. What Ev clearly was saying was that Johnny, Derrick and Kenny knew when J and D volunteered that Abe was going to throw the face-off, so each would get a key. She is reminding them that their method was game-smart but cowardly..

I'm a bit confused, can you explain?