No one really knows the boundary dates for the challenge. Several different dates have been mentioned. They could take a couple of days to do the pre-show taping, opening and interviews, thus the challenge itself could start almost a week after the departure date listed at any of the internet places that have posted a speculative date. It's also likely that the end date that makes the challenge look long for an apparently small cast is that that date is possibly the production pack and return date, not the final mission date.

The bottom line really is that BMP has done a damn fine job of keeping the cast from talking and in concealing from the cast (and us) their plans for the challenge itself --everything from timing to location to format. It's something I've been bitching about for a long time. It's been way too easy in the past for people to find out almost everything.

Maybe this Challenge will be longer than usual.

All I know is I am looking forward to finding out who is replacing Tyrie. I would actually have liked to see one of the Hollywood girls be cast not Ev. Although I know Bri is busy with music, but Sarah and Kim could compete.

Please anyone but Trisha...shoot I would even take Shauvon...just to laugh at her when she is drunk, that was always entertaining.

Why not? I think Trisha would be great on a Challenge. Although I would rather have Parisa on one. I'm sorry but I think it would take one day of Shauvon getting drunk and crying for her to get sent home. Trosha would be diabolical. Although she would be entertaining.

By the cast, if there are Gauntlet per se, what looks like it would be the best match up?

Don't take this personally, because you've just given me an excuse to point out that careful reading of what Lord Bacchus writes is important. People read a name and instantly jump to a belief that is often most misplaced, and in hingsight, silly.

"Replacing" Tyrie isn't accuracte, because it appears that he was never on the casting list. "Replacing" suggests to me that he decided against doing the challenge after first agreeing to do so, agreeing he or others discovered that he was unable me meet the terms of the offered contract, or the invite was withdrawn by BMP for some unknown reason. The only reason his name came up here was as the result of something said by a very infrequent poster. Other websites gave the name life after reading it here. Not a single one appears to have checked to see if there might be evidence that it was true or false, the standards of journalism regrarding sources of such things having not been a priority in many quarters.

I dont take it personally. You are just correcting a frequent mistake. It's okay.

Well, I would like to see another Hollywood castmember be the missing spot. It would be nice to see Dave not be alone. Joey would be great for the Challenge. He would probably be a brute.

Sure she would bring the drama, but that girl just gave me a headache with her holier than thou, racist, "I am never wrong" personality. It wears thin real quick and she learned absolutely nothing from her Real World experience so why even offer her a slot on a challenge, they need to be offering that girl therapy not a publicity oppurtunity. Besides she teaches young girls that watch these shows (right along with us) that acting like that is okay, and it is not...in the actual real world.

Yeah, I did hate how she used her religion as a way out of everything and she acted so holy. Religion is great but the way she was using it was annoying. Yeah and thats why I loved Parisa. She never took her crap. But her in a Challenge would be different. Imagine her getting physical.

"Her" as in Trisha, or Parisa??

Her as in Trisha. I think it would be interesting.

Parisa would also be interesting in a Challenge. I think she has the mental ability to take her far.