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RW/RR Challenge Real World/Road Rules Challenge is a reality television series on MTV, that spun off from that network's two flagship reality shows, The Real World and Road Rules. Each Challenge pits cast members from past seasons of the two shows against each other. The two teams must complete challenges in order to win prizes and advance in the game.

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Old 05-14-2008
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Re: Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Panama (2008)

I agree that Brooke is very social. For that reason alone, her circle should be heavily intersecting with at least one of the strong women.
Yes, she is a highly social animal - but not in a genuine manner (as indicated by the "Least Sincere" moniker.) She is outwardly loquacious while inherently being in turmoil. From that we can infer she does not form meaningful bonds with peers, which is why she does not diametrically fall into the social radius of the other female competitors.

Robin and Johanna need to be two fully intersecting circles since both will be fully isolated from the others who will see them as threats. Assuming your sociologist friend is right and knows of an outside connection between Colie and Johanna, that might mean there should be a dotted line between the two.
The amount of common overlap between Robin and Johanna is to scale in respect to the real world relationship between Colie and Johanna. From the data I provided to my social cartographer (culled from reliable external sources) it would be safe to assume that Johanna and Colie are the strongest actual alliance amongst the woman present (which supersedes the natural alliance derived via personality compatibility and analogous game objectives shared between Johanna and Robin.)

I don't see Tonya as the "Lone Ranger" depicted. It you look at the outside influence as the guys, then those circles should be touching and the new people gravitating toward her. You can't ignore the experience of someone going on her 7th challenge, tying Beth for the record.
You need to take into account the fact that she is the old guard and even though many of her "blood rivals" are not present, her reputation proceeds her. I can concede that her relationships with the men (especially Derrick) could in some respects change the relative weighting in a big picture view, but in reality such relationships outside her contemporaries (the women) only act to further engorge the schism depicted.

Final idea... The sociogram is an idea casting tool. If you know the people well enough, you should be able to predict the potential drama and even work to exploit it happening for it's story value... I wonder if BMP uses something similar. Sticky notes probably work well for this.
Very good question. I bet that they do something on the same lines all though I am sure they have much more accurate information provided through people who specialize in the field. I am just an armchair "activist" with a laptop and a few friends on myspace.
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Re: Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Panama (2008)

Now this is a discussion I can sink my teeth into! Hopefully more will join in. I think all of our insights have merit. Unfortunately, we won't know until the challenge is over which ones are right and which are wrong. I don't put any particular stock in my musings above but thought a contrary offering for the purposes of discussion might be useful.
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Re: Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Panama (2008)

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Ashli Robson - (The Real World Sydney)
Kelly Anne Judd - (The Real World Sydney)
Brooke LaBarbera - (The Real World Denver)
Colie Edison - (The Real World Denver)
Johanna Botta - (The Real World Austin)
Robin Hibbard - (The Real World San Diego)
Tonya Cooley - (The Real World Chicago)
Jennifer Grijalva - (The Real World Denver)

Ryan Kehoe - (Fresh Meat)
Cohutta Lee Grindstaff - (The Real World Sydney)
Dunbar Flinn - (The Real World Sydney)
Johnny Devenanzio - (The Real World Key West)
Dan Walsh - (Road Rules Viewer's Revenge)
Derrick Kosinski- (Road Rules X-Treme)
Dave Malinosky- (The Real World Hollywood)
Tyrie Ballard - (The Real World Denver)

Hey I was wondering why they would cast Tyrie if he already quit a challege? You would think that he would be off the list for future challenges...I can't rememebr what his reason was for leaving though, I think it was something to do with his GF...
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Re: Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Panama (2008)

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Hey I was wondering why they would cast Tyrie if he already quit a challege? You would think that he would be off the list for future challenges...I can't remember what his reason was for leaving though, I think it was something to do with his GF...
You know, that is a very good point Stacee. I understand that he had a valid reason for leaving, but you would think that it would still affect the level of confidence that production had in him.

To be honest, I am not 100% sure on his placement in the cast line-up and reserve the right to remove him from the list in the near future should I not hear further evidence of his inclusion in the challenge.
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Re: Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Panama (2008)

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You know, that is a very good point Stacee. I understand that he had a valid reason for leaving, but you would think that it would still affect the level of confidence that production had in him.

To be honest, I am not 100% sure on his placement in the cast line-up and reserve the right to remove him in the near future should I not hear further evidence of his inclusion in the challenge.
I am thinking that his name is being tossed around to perhaps throw us off the scent of someone more popular?
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Re: Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Panama (2008)

yes stacee his girl was in the hospital.
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Re: Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Panama (2008)

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I am thinking that his name is being tossed around to perhaps throw us off the scent of someone more popular?
I think you're right, there could be another name on the male side of the equation that might be interchangeable with Ty. My suspicions are raised.
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As for the posts about Tyrie's it is quite hair raising and he could easily be placed just to cover up for somebody a bit more popular. How much incentive could they have to bring him back if he was the first to leave the Inferno, he left early on the Gauntlet, and isn't quite entertaining.

As for the sociogram:

Brooke could easily make it far due to her social activity and the fact that she is allianced with Jenn and Colie. It could take her far but she has a loud, and at times in-your-face attitude. This could easily make others want to send her home.

Tonya is now tied for the most challenges. This paints a huge target on her back because this makes her knowledgeable about the game and strategic. She doesn't have many foes on this season but doesn't have many friends either. If i remember she had problems with Robin because she supposedly had an affair with Mark, Robin's boyfriend. She isn't necessarily clear of drama. Plus her attitude is always a problem with others.
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the next challenge is definitely duel format....the grapevine just informed me

confirmed is EV
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Re: Real World/Road Rules Challenge: Panama (2008)

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the next challenge is definitely duel format....the grapevine just informed me

confirmed is EV
ORLY?
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