The Real Road 2: European Escapade(Game Thread)

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I know the deadline is Friday at 3pm eastern but if everyone got it done by tomorrow night you'd really be helping me out trying to keep the schedule in tact and giving everyone extra time for the pit stop this weekend for all the busy people.

Also please note(I will change it soon) that Pit Stop #9 will be live instead of deadline. And there wont be a pit stop #10, im just gonna make it a 3 person final so we can get this all done faster.

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Hello everyone and welcome to your sixth Driver’s Seat Ceremony on this season of…

Today’s topic will be Abortion. This is easily one of the most controversial topics in current day society. One side believes that abortions shouldnt be allowed(Pro-Life) and the other side says they should be allowed and not the choice of the government to decide(Pro-Choice). In addition we will be talking about government's involvement as well as planned parenthood facilities and their use.  I will serve as your moderator and if I feel that answers to questions are becoming too repetitive, off topic, or behavior is becoming uncalled for we will move on to the next question. If your behavior is becoming rude, cruel, or harmful you’ll be asked to leave today’s event. So please, lets get a quality discussion flowing but do it in a non-hurtful or harmful way.

First, I’ll present some facts for you to read over and then discuss

Fact 1) In 2014, a reported 926,240 abortions took place in the United States, down from 1.06 million in 2011, 1.21 million abortions in 2008, 1.2 million in 2005, 1.29 million in 2002, 1.31 million in 2000 and 1.36 million in 1996.

Fact 2)From 1973 through 2011, nearly 53 million legal abortions occurred in the U.S (AGI).

Fact 3)As of 2013 statistics, 66 countries(25% of world population) prohibit abortion all together compared to only 61 countries(~40% of worlds population) with no restrictions. The rest of the worlds population has some type of restriction but not a complete ban.

Fact 4)About $528 million of Taxpayer Funding goes to Planned Parenthood

Fact 5)January 22, 1973 - The US Supreme Court, in a 7-2 decision, affirms the legality of a woman's right to have an abortion under the Fourteenth amendment to the Constitution

Facts From:

http://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics

https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm

https://www.reproductiverights.org/sites/crr.civicactions.net/files/docu...

https://concernedwomen.org/if-you-are-pro-life-memorize-these-10-simple-...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/roe-v-wade-fast-facts/

First of all, are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

First of all, are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

Generally, pro-life. Before you all attack me, hear me out. I believe that if you are responsible enough to have sex, you are assuming the risk of pregnancy. Getting an abortion due to a mistake is understandable, but I still don't think it's right. 

I do not think it is the government's right to say what a woman can do with her body. But the man and woman should take responsibility for their actions I think. Killing an unborn child instead of dealing with a pregnancy is not fair. 

I believe abortion should be legal, but people shouldn't just have abortions because they don't want to deal with consequences of having sex. 

PS I hope I'm not gonna just be doing this alone lmao

PS I hope I'm not gonna just be doing this alone lmao

me too lmfao

What are your thoughts on Planned Parenthood being a facility that performs hundreds of thousands of abortions each year along with providing healthy resources for women.

 

I'm here. 

What are your thoughts on Planned Parenthood being a facility that performs hundreds of thousands of abortions each year along with providing healthy resources for women. 

I know this is gonna lead to a conversation on the defunding of PP. I'll just be straight up, I don't agree with it being defunded. I know the government thinks it has the right to do so because it's a facility that performs abortions, but PP does so much more than abortions, include offer services and people to talk about alternatives. 

Again, I don't agree with abortions or think they're a good thing, but sometimes life is hard and things aren't black and white, and I think there needs to be a place for women to weigh their options. 

Should the government have any involvement with abortion regulation or should it be all the choice of the person seeking an abortion?

First of all, are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

im pro choice, I guess with this being kind of anonymous I'll open up.  I've had abortion. I was 15 years old and was with this piece of shit guy and  found it out. If I wouldn't have gotten one I feel like I wouldn't be where I am today. Now I have a masters degree and I know it sounds bad, but I feel like being a teen mom prevents people from doing many things. I've also had a friend who has had two and I'm happy she did because the guy she was with was shit also. Do I regret my choice? Yes, but only because who knows what that little soul could've done for the world but I chose myself. And I want to have children when I'm ready. Not over a stupid mistake I made to the guy I lost my virginity to

Should the government have any involvement with abortion regulation or should it be all the choice of the person seeking an abortion?

it should be choice. Like a lot of women say, it's my body, the government can stay out of it. 

Looking specifically at fact #2 what are your thoughts on so many abortions taking place? What are your initial emotions/reactions?

Looking specifically at fact #2 what are your thoughts on so many abortions taking place? What are your initial emotions/reactions?

it honestly baffles me because that's over a million souls that could've changed the world. But I can't talk as much I guess because I've had one. 

Should the government have any involvement with abortion regulation or should it be all the choice of the person seeking an abortion?

The government represents the will of the people. While I personally believe that abortion should be taken seriously, as you ARE killing a person growing inside you, a lot of people don't feel that way. Like I said, things aren't so black and white sometimes and life is complicated. For example, if someone had a serious mental illness or a drug addiction and got pregnant, how healthy is that child going to be? It might be better for both the mother and potential child to have an abortion in that case. That is why I believe the government can't just put a blanket law over everyone and say abortions can't be ethical and are illegal. Sometimes, and it's sad to say, but sometimes an abortion is the best option.

With abortions slowly decreasing each year, is there still a need for them?

HonestTea101 wrote:

First of all, are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

im pro choice, I guess with this being kind of anonymous I'll open up.  I've had abortion. I was 15 years old and was with this piece of shit guy and  found it out. If I wouldn't have gotten one I feel like I wouldn't be where I am today. Now I have a masters degree and I know it sounds bad, but I feel like being a teen mom prevents people from doing many things. I've also had a friend who has had two and I'm happy she did because the guy she was with was shit also. Do I regret my choice? Yes, but only because who knows what that little soul could've done for the world but I chose myself. And I want to have children when I'm ready. Not over a stupid mistake I made to the guy I lost my virginity to

This is what I meant when I said that things aren't so black and white. First off, I wanna say thanks for sharing Camilinator, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. In instances like this, abortion may have been the best option. She was young and made a big mistake, but it shouldn't have to ruin her life forever. So while I say I'm pro-life, I just mean that I think you should get an abortion if you can avoid it. I think obviously people should take preventative measures, but if those fail (say, a condom broke), I think abortion may be the best option for that person.

camilinator2370 wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:First of all, are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

im pro choice, I guess with this being kind of anonymous I'll open up.  I've had abortion. I was 15 years old and was with this piece of shit guy and  found it out. If I wouldn't have gotten one I feel like I wouldn't be where I am today. Now I have a masters degree and I know it sounds bad, but I feel like being a teen mom prevents people from doing many things. I've also had a friend who has had two and I'm happy she did because the guy she was with was shit also. Do I regret my choice? Yes, but only because who knows what that little soul could've done for the world but I chose myself. And I want to have children when I'm ready. Not over a stupid mistake I made to the guy I lost my virginity to

This is what I meant when I said that things aren't so black and white. First off, I wanna say thanks for sharing Camilinator, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. In instances like this, abortion may have been the best option. She was young and made a big mistake, but it shouldn't have to ruin her life forever. So while I say I'm pro-life, I just mean that I think you should get an abortion if you can avoid it. I think obviously people should take preventative measures, but if those fail (say, a condom broke), I think abortion may be the best option for that person.

What about people just too reckless to use proper protection and old enough to understand the consequences? Should they be allowed to get abortions

With abortions slowly decreasing each year, is there still a need for them?

Lol yes. If the baby is going to kill the mother, the woman was raped, it's a young teenager that made a mistake... I think there are instances they may be necessary. Do I think they're unfortunate still? Yes. Do I think they're necessary to be legal still? Yes of course.

camilinator2370 wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:First of all, are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

im pro choice, I guess with this being kind of anonymous I'll open up.  I've had abortion. I was 15 years old and was with this piece of shit guy and  found it out. If I wouldn't have gotten one I feel like I wouldn't be where I am today. Now I have a masters degree and I know it sounds bad, but I feel like being a teen mom prevents people from doing many things. I've also had a friend who has had two and I'm happy she did because the guy she was with was shit also. Do I regret my choice? Yes, but only because who knows what that little soul could've done for the world but I chose myself. And I want to have children when I'm ready. Not over a stupid mistake I made to the guy I lost my virginity to

This is what I meant when I said that things aren't so black and white. First off, I wanna say thanks for sharing Camilinator, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. In instances like this, abortion may have been the best option. She was young and made a big mistake, but it shouldn't have to ruin her life forever. So while I say I'm pro-life, I just mean that I think you should get an abortion if you can avoid it. I think obviously people should take preventative measures, but if those fail (say, a condom broke), I think abortion may be the best option for that person.

ihad just started the pill. So I guess that was my stupid mistake but yea. Would I have one now? No. I'm almost 25 and am in a good place in my life where even as a single mom I could make it work. Do I still think abortion needs to exist yes. I honestly think the number has went down because of how much government assistance you can get for it. Not to mention 16 and pregnant and teen mom glorified the experience. 

deeper wrote:

camilinator2370 wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:First of all, are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

im pro choice, I guess with this being kind of anonymous I'll open up.  I've had abortion. I was 15 years old and was with this piece of shit guy and  found it out. If I wouldn't have gotten one I feel like I wouldn't be where I am today. Now I have a masters degree and I know it sounds bad, but I feel like being a teen mom prevents people from doing many things. I've also had a friend who has had two and I'm happy she did because the guy she was with was shit also. Do I regret my choice? Yes, but only because who knows what that little soul could've done for the world but I chose myself. And I want to have children when I'm ready. Not over a stupid mistake I made to the guy I lost my virginity to

This is what I meant when I said that things aren't so black and white. First off, I wanna say thanks for sharing Camilinator, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. In instances like this, abortion may have been the best option. She was young and made a big mistake, but it shouldn't have to ruin her life forever. So while I say I'm pro-life, I just mean that I think you should get an abortion if you can avoid it. I think obviously people should take preventative measures, but if those fail (say, a condom broke), I think abortion may be the best option for that person.

What about people just too reckless to use proper protection and old enough to understand the consequences? Should they be allowed to get abortions

I don't think they SHOULD have them. But that's an opinion. I think abortions are selfish, as you are literally choosing to kill an unborn child as to not inconvience your own life, but I still think they should have the right. What I'm saying is, I'm pro-life, but I don't think the government should be able to tell you whether you can or cannot have one.

deeper wrote:

camilinator2370 wrote:

HonestTea101 wrote:First of all, are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

im pro choice, I guess with this being kind of anonymous I'll open up.  I've had abortion. I was 15 years old and was with this piece of shit guy and  found it out. If I wouldn't have gotten one I feel like I wouldn't be where I am today. Now I have a masters degree and I know it sounds bad, but I feel like being a teen mom prevents people from doing many things. I've also had a friend who has had two and I'm happy she did because the guy she was with was shit also. Do I regret my choice? Yes, but only because who knows what that little soul could've done for the world but I chose myself. And I want to have children when I'm ready. Not over a stupid mistake I made to the guy I lost my virginity to

This is what I meant when I said that things aren't so black and white. First off, I wanna say thanks for sharing Camilinator, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. In instances like this, abortion may have been the best option. She was young and made a big mistake, but it shouldn't have to ruin her life forever. So while I say I'm pro-life, I just mean that I think you should get an abortion if you can avoid it. I think obviously people should take preventative measures, but if those fail (say, a condom broke), I think abortion may be the best option for that person.

What about people just too reckless to use proper protection and old enough to understand the consequences? Should they be allowed to get abortions

it depends. My friend had two one at 20 and one at 22. Her bf made her get them. But she's so happy she did because they aren't together anymore and she realizes how much of a shitty person he is. 

What alternatives to having an abortion should there be?

I wish more ppl were here. This is a subject I'm very passionate about and would love to hear more people's opinions...

What alternatives to having an abortion should there be?

adoption, but the mother grows an attachment while carrying so I understand. Otherwise I'd say free bc

What alternatives to having an abortion should there be?

Plan B is obvious. If you made a mistake or the birth control failed, I think Plan B is a good option. Obviously there's adoption as well if you carry the baby.

I wish more ppl were here. This is a subject I'm very passionate about and would love to hear more people's opinions...

tell them off, im mad too. This was one convo I was excited to have especially since we had a good mix of prolife/prochoice

HonestTea101 wrote:

What alternatives to having an abortion should there be?

Plan B is obvious. If you made a mistake or the birth control failed, I think Plan B is a good option. Obviously there's adoption as well if you carry the baby.

dont you have to be 18 if you buy plan b?

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